Return to Tradition reads St Vincent of Lérins on doctrine, but gets his century and the Catechisms wrong
Discussing a passage Bishop Joseph Strickland shared from St Vincent of Lérins, Return to Tradition says Vincent wrote in the fourth century, that the Church was “always pro capital punishment”, and that the Catechism of Trent alone was declared “close to infallible”. Vincent wrote in 434, the death-penalty question is contested, and no catechism carries that status.
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Verdicts at a glance
- Inaccurate
St Vincent of Lérins wrote the Commonitorium in the fourth century, at the time of the Arian heresy. · Anthony Stine
- Needs context
Vincent’s rule settles the death-penalty question, because the Church always supported capital punishment. · Anthony Stine
- Unsupported
The Catechism of the Council of Trent alone was declared nearly infallible. · Anthony Stine
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On 11 October 2026 Return to Tradition released “Bishop Strickland Speaks On Resisting Lawful Church Authority” as a podcast and on YouTube (podcast; YouTube). Anthony Stine reads a passage that Bishop Joseph Strickland shared from St Vincent of Lérins’s Commonitorium on the development of doctrine, then reads further chapters and comments. Bishop Strickland’s excerpt itself is not in question here. Three of the host’s own statements can be checked.
What was said
Statement 1: Anthony Stine
Return to Tradition (podcast) · October 11, 2026
He's saying this in the 4th century, by the way, about like 1st century Christians.
In brief: St Vincent of Lérins wrote the Commonitorium in the fourth century, at the time of the Arian heresy.
Our verdict: InaccurateThe record contradicts the claim.
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Statement 2: Anthony Stine
Return to Tradition (podcast) · October 11, 2026
That is St. Vincent of Lérins answering the capital punishment question, because the church was always pro capital punishment
In brief: Vincent’s rule settles the death-penalty question, because the Church always supported capital punishment.
Our verdict: Needs contextThe words are accurate, but missing context changes how they read.
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Statement 3: Anthony Stine
Return to Tradition (podcast) · October 11, 2026
The Catechism of Trent was the only one declared to be close to infallible, the only one.
In brief: The Catechism of the Council of Trent alone was declared nearly infallible.
Our verdict: UnsupportedNo evidence was offered, and we found none to support it.
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Context
St Vincent’s rule that doctrine may develop only “in the same doctrine, the same sense, and the same understanding” is part of the Church’s own teaching: the First Vatican Council quoted it in Dei Filius (Dei Filius, ch. 4).
On statement 1 · Anthony Stine
Later the host adds that Vincent was “writing this at the time of the Aryan heresy in the fourth century” ([11:56]).
On statement 2 · Anthony Stine
The host is reading Vincent’s rule that a Catholic must believe what was held “by all, equally with one consent”.
On statement 3 · Anthony Stine
The host recommends the Catechism of St Pius X and says some Catholics treat the current Catechism as if it were infallible.
The record
What the sources show, statement by statement.
Verifiable factcan be checked against the sources cited.TradWatch analysisis our interpretation, clearly labelled.Statement 1 · Anthony Stine
St Vincent of Lérins wrote the Commonitorium in the fourth century, at the time of the Arian heresy.
Verifiable fact Vincent dates his own book
In the Commonitorium Vincent refers to “the holy council which some three years ago was held at Ephesus”, which met in 431 (Commonitorium, ch. 29). The Catholic Encyclopedia dates the work to 434 (Catholic Encyclopedia). It belongs to the fifth century. Vincent discusses the Arian crisis of the previous century as an example; he did not write during it.
Sources
Statement 2 · Anthony Stine
Vincent’s rule settles the death-penalty question, because the Church always supported capital punishment.
Verifiable fact What earlier teaching said
The Catechism of the Council of Trent taught that civil authorities have lawful “power over life and death”, and that its just use is “an act of paramount obedience” to the fifth commandment (Roman Catechism). That teaching described a lawful power, not a duty. John Paul II, keeping it, judged cases requiring execution “very rare, if not practically non-existent” (Evangelium Vitae 56).
Verifiable fact How the Holy See presents the change
Since 2018 the Catechism teaches that “the death penalty is inadmissible” (CCC 2267). The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith called the revision “an authentic development of doctrine that is not in contradiction with the prior teachings of the Magisterium” (CDF letter, n. 8).
Sources
- 6
Official Church source
CCC 2267
Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 2267
Holy See (vatican.va)
More analyses citing Catechism of the Catholic ChurchRead source
- 7
Official Church source
n. 8
Letter to the Bishops regarding the new revision of number 2267 of the Catechism
Holy See (vatican.va)
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TradWatch analysis A real debate, stated as settled
Whether the 2018 revision is a true development in Vincent’s sense is argued in good faith on both sides. The host’s view is one side of it. But “always pro capital punishment” flattens a teaching that allowed the penalty without requiring it, and the Holy See applies the same rule of development to reach the opposite conclusion. TradWatch™ examined a similar claim in a LifeSiteNews report.
Statement 3 · Anthony Stine
The Catechism of the Council of Trent alone was declared nearly infallible.
Verifiable fact How the current Catechism was approved
John Paul II declared the Catechism of the Catholic Church “a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion and a sure norm for teaching the faith” (Fidei depositum).
Source
- 8
Official Church source
Fidei depositum
Holy See (vatican.va)
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TradWatch analysis No catechism has that status
Popes have commended the Roman Catechism highly, but the episode cites no act of the Church declaring it “close to infallible”, and we found none. Infallibility belongs to definitions of the Pope and councils, not to catechisms as such. Each catechism carries the authority of the teaching it contains.
Bottom line
The episode reads St Vincent accurately, and his rule on development is the Church’s own. But Vincent wrote in 434, not the fourth century; no catechism has been declared “close to infallible”; and “always pro capital punishment” is one side of a debate the Holy See answers differently.
The original
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Open on YouTubeSources
- 1.Primary sourceCited in statement 1
Bishop Strickland Speaks On Resisting Lawful Church Authority
Return to Tradition (podcast) · October 11, 2026
podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthony-stine/episodes/Bishop-Strickland-Speaks…
- 2.
- 3.HistoricalCited in statement 1
Catholic Encyclopedia (New Advent)
- 4.Official Church sourceCited in statement 2
The Catechism of the Council of Trent: the fifth commandment
Catholic Information Network
- 5.Official Church sourceCited in statement 2
n. 56 — Evangelium Vitae
Holy See (vatican.va)
vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_25031995_…
- 6.Official Church sourceCited in statement 2
CCC 2267 — Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 2267
Holy See (vatican.va)
- 7.Official Church sourceCited in statement 2
n. 8 — Letter to the Bishops regarding the new revision of number 2267 of the Catechism
Holy See (vatican.va)
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_2018080…
- 8.Official Church sourceCited in statement 3
Holy See (vatican.va)
vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_1…
- 9.Official Church sourceFurther reading
First Vatican Council, Dei Filius (1870)
Papal Encyclicals Online
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